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Question: "If a Christian commits suicide, is he/she still saved?"


What's your thought regarding the above question?

There are some things I will stand-up in it and strongly believe: the only thing that will send a soul to hell is the rejection of Jesus.  To die without knowing Jesus is a tragedy.  I believe, any soul that leaves  the present of time, as we know it,  and enter into eternity, where time no longer exists, without having accepted Jesus as Savior, is forever lost.

 Every since the death, Monday of actor Robin Williams the country have been whispering about suicide. The most murmur, mutter, mumble, whispered questions that's on everyone's lips are, if someone commits suicide, do they go to Hell? (I can’t find anything in the Bible to verify or reject this claim). Even though the Christian who has committed suicide has committed a sin, he is still forgiven. But, in order to understand why a Christian who commits suicide is forgiven, you first need to understand what salvation is and what it is based upon. What is Salvation?

Some pastors have taken to social media to warn other pastors in how damaging this can be if handled in the wrong way: Before Robin Williams Shows Up in Your Sermon, Think Again!
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  1. Jesus said there is only ONE unpardonable sin and that's not it. So to answer the question, yes.

    1. Committing suicide will not condemn someone to "hell"

  2. If a christian commits suicide, there is no way that person can go to heaven. God's spirit will never give us suicidal thoughts. committing suicide shows that you have no faith in God. it's not how you start but how you finish that counts -- ending your life with faith in God.

    1. salvation is not about works... lest any man shall boast...

    2. Thanks Rev. I believe we are justified and saved by faith alone, but good works are the necessary result and evidence of that salvation.

    3. I am not sure having suicidal thoughts is an automatic "go directly to hell" sentence.

      The Bible is full of great men of God who had thoughts of ending their life.

      I am weary with my groaning; all the night make I my bed to swim; I water my couch with my tears. (‭Psalms‬ ‭6‬:‭6‬ KJV)

      Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived. (‭Job‬ ‭3‬:‭3‬ KJV)

      But he himself went a day's journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a juniper tree: and he requested for himself that he might die; and said, It is enough; now, O Lord, take away my life; for I am not better than my fathers. (‭1 Kings‬ ‭19‬:‭4‬ KJV)

      This is truly a part of life that the phrase "ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME" truly applies.

    4. @Cop: AMEN!!! PREACH!

    5. Sampson committed suicide and he is mentioned in the "Hall of Faith " in Hebrews Chapter 11. The Word of God was written by " Holy " men inspired by the Holy Ghost. So that means that every "Word of God is pure". Always remember when we want to judge the outcome of difficult situations that, we don't have enough information to judge. Only God KNOWS THE HEART & has all the answers. A " Christian " who commits the act of suicide is evidently "sick". Mental illness is no different than a person who suffers from cancer or kidney failure. An individual can become or be mentally challenged due to no fault of their own. The Chemistry of the brain itself can cause mental-illness/depression. Do you actually believe that our loving Heavenly Father would condemn a sick " Believer " to Hell ? A "Christian/Believer" can become mentally ill, just like when your loved one suffers from some debilitating illness. We all don't have the same level of "faith". Would you condemn someone dying of cancer, or a Heart-Attack? Of course not. An individual can become mentally or emotionally ill just like your physical body can become ill. It`s pure ignorance to think that we are somehow immune to certain afflictions whether they be emotional, physical or mental. We are to trust Christ for Salvation and healing. However, never become so self-righteous that you actually condemn those who may be afflicted beyond your ability to accept. The Grace of God is sufficient and for those who die due to suicide are left in the Father`s hands for him to judge. God alone is the JUDGE! We are too ignorant and we would send Believers who may be "Retarded, those with brain injuries, those who have inherited mental diseases, Veterans suffering depression/PTSS, mothers with Postpartum Depression, straight to HELL. I believe that God Saves, Heals, and Delivers, but some folks will leave here due to their affliction. If one of the saints or your " Saved " loved-one was killed in a car accident, would you say, " oh I don't think they went to Heaven cause I don't think they had a chance to "repent". Leave God`s business to God. Live right, repent daily and pray you don't end up with Alzheimer's, or Senility/Dementia or someone might cast you away cause they didn't hear you repent. Some of you " Christians " sound like you don't have an ounce of LOVE or UNDERSTANDING!

  3. Yes! If you die do you stop being your parents child? That's exactly how ridiculous this question is. Our salvation is Not based on our behavior. It is based on Christ's. He doesn't go back on His word no matter how convoluted the human gets.that's why we need Christ because left to ourselves we are worthless. Only because of Christ are we worthy and Nothing we do will change His love for us. Nothing!

    1. Our salvation is not based on our behavior. It is based on Christ's. But if you sin after you are born again you are crucifying Christ again (Hebrews 6:4-6) and you are in a dangerous spot! The Bible also says we don't have authority over our spirit or control on the day of death (Ecclesiastes 8:8). If we want to go against God's timings and plans we are going to sin against him!

      There is only one unpardonable sin. But in case of suicide there is no time to receive your pardon after you die. Because after death we can wait only for judgment not salvation (Hebrews 9:27)!

  4. I love that website GotQuestions it is VERY helpful with ANY question a person may have concerning the bible, Christianity, Jesus, morality, the Church etc.

    But to answer ur question NO a person who is saved cant go to hell, they go to Heaven. However, they will miss out on some of the rewards they would have received for perservering and leaning on Jesus.


  6. Hello everyone. I believe it is a fallacy that once we are born again that we could never lose eternal life. The bible is replete with warnings to repent and obey. Without such no one will enter into heaven.

    I will start from the last book and work backwards. But first, let me address a few of the errors that have been stated. Grace is actually God's power to do or not do a certain thing. In other words by Grace, or God's power we are saved, we are able to repent, to believe, to obey, to exercise faith unto salvation. Grace is not a blind eye towards deliberate sin, neither is it a get pass free card.

    Rev22:14 says blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tee of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. Verse 18.,, for without(outside) are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loves and makes a lie. This sounds like our actions are determining factors in whether we will be granted entrance into heaven, or denied access.

    I'll stop here for now.. seeing that I have 50+ more scriptures that speak to this issue.

    1. Tarres Stanley thanks for the comment. Is it possible to be saved, and then lose that salvation? I don't believe you can....and I can find you 50+ scripture to support my claim. Now, most folks who comment on this blog know that I subscribe to and believe "ONCE SAVED,ALWAYS SAVED". I have confidence that the Bible supports my claim also. I believe that we can be saved once and for all ONLY through a repentant, saving faith in Jesus Christ. I also believe that once a person has accepted Christ as Savior, they may wonder at times, if it is possible to lose that salvation if they do something wrong or have committed a sin.....I believe they can not. Our Salvation is an assurance,it has nothing to do with a feeling. Once a person has accepted Jesus Christ as Savior, he/she is forever saved.

    2. Hi Sister Brock. I am aware of your stance on this issue and want to respect your right to believe so. At the same time, I feel compelled to address this specific teaching of once saved always saved, but only with your permission. I am well prepared to rightly divided the myriad scriptures, every single one, which seem to support this teaching. I personally believe it to be a tragedy for one to subscribe to this lie of Satan, only to find his/ herself in the lake of fire and brimstone with Satan and the false prophets and the beasts

    3. Sorry, Tarres Stanley, with respect, I guess me and you will have to disagree on this one.

    4. Once saved, always saved?? What about the warning God gave to the believers in the churches mentioned in revelation 2:15, 16; 3:1-5, ? What about Hebrews 10:26,27. Please read I Corinthians 10:1-11. I am afraid whether we are taking the things of God so lightly. Please read I Peter 4:17,18.

  7. All I can say is that the devil has done a masterful job at deceiving people to believe this lie

    1. Tarres you so right this subject is one that I believe the devil has done much damage. If a person is saved and tormented by guilt and shame, then the devil will accuse them of not being saved, like you are trying to do. This is used by the enemy to bring much fear, torment and condemnation into a person's life. There is no need to fear losing your salvation, if you know how much that God loves you, how merciful of a God we serve, and how we are not saved by works but by grace. Are we living a worldly lifestyle? Are we holding unforgiveness in our hearts? Now that's another story.
      Until you are anyone else for that matter can pinpoint the exact thing one must do to become unsaved then I suggest you keep that to yourself.

    2. "Once saved, always saved" is the position that I have chosen for my self to believe in. I wholeheartly believe when a person become a Christian he/she can never lose his/her salvation. He/she is saved always. This particular debate on this teaching has been raging within Christian circles for centuries. Many people like you believe it is possible to lose one's salvation while others like me believe it is not. We both can use the Bible to support our beliefs. So why should I discard my postition and embrace your position? I'm just asking?

    3. Hi anonymous, I have a question for you. Can we enter into heaven with unconfessed sin?

      Before you answer this consider I John 1:9: It says, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Keep in mind that John is speaking to Christians- vs 2:12-28; 3:1,2,7; 4:1,4,7; 5:13 , etc

    4. Got a question.

      If I (as a saved Christian) were to tell a lie and then dropped dead of a heart attack.

      Would I be condemned to hell because I didn't have a moment to confess the lie?

      For I am persuaded, that NEITHER DEATH (I believe that would cover suicide) nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, .................shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (‭Romans‬ ‭8‬:‭38-39‬ KJV)

    5. Cop, I believe I John 1:9 answers your question. We might not like the answer but that is the truth, nevertheless. For those sins that are not willful , Jesus is at the right hand of the Father making intercession for the saints.

      As far as the scripture you mentioned, what is peculiarly missing from that list is SIN. For it is sin that separates us from God. Suicide is sin. And it does not glorify God. And the wages of all sin is still death( this is inclusive of unconfessed, unrepentant, and willful sin.

    6. Sis Brock, the reason you should consider my position is because if you are wrong the consequences are deadly. Also, because I sincerely care about the body of Christ( not to egotistically try to prove I'm right and win an argument for the sake of self).

    7. Tarress you funny! I don't believe for one second I'm wrong...I believe beyond a shadow of doubt if one is save there's no way he/she can lose their salvation.

    8. Sis Brock, let me ask you a simple question. Have you,at anytime in your Christian walk ever believed something that you now do not believe? If so, it is worth considering and dialoging about this most important belief of yours. Also, respectfully, Are you able to speak to each and every scripture which, to me, debunks your position? I say this out of sincere respect and concern, not out of any arrogance. Will you at least consider addressing the scriptures that I have at hand which appears to dismiss the doctrine of Once Saved, Always Saved. I am prepared to address each and every scripture that appears to say that salvation cannot be lost.


    9. Once again Tarres there's nothing that can say that will make me change my mind about a born again believer losing his/her salvation. I just don't believe it to be possible. For every scripture that you can find to support your position I can find the same amount of scripture to support my position.

    10. Sis Brock, even though there are seemingly scriptures which support both views, both views can not both be correct. This is why I said I am fully prepared to address any scripture that you could pose that seemingly says that salvation cannot be lost and contextually prove that such is not the case.

      My question to you, or any other that believes this is, Can you contextually address all the scriptures that I can present that shows salvation is conditional and disprove my position?

      I believe our eternal destinies are in the balance, depending on what position we take. Therefore, it would behoove us to be absolutely sure ( able to address the other scriptures that contradict our beliefs) that we are standing on solid ground and truth.

  8. Also, before we accept anything as a doctrine or the truth, we must be able to reconcile each and every scripture which even vaguely appears to refute the supposed doctrinal truth we are relegating as doctrinal truth.

    I am fully prepared to defend and disprove what I believe is the truth concerning eternal salvation against that of once saved always saved.

  9. Tarres the believers are saved solely by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ. As a result of acceptance of this grace by faith, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit as a guarantor of our salvation (Ephesians 1:13-14).
    When God seals a person it is a permanent seal which no one is able to break. What God has sealed man cannot break.

    The story of Daniel in the lions' den is an Old Testament example of what a seal is what it is meant to be. The seal was placed on the stone over the mouth of the den "so that nothing would be changed." I don't believe one can lose Salvation.

  10. I agree that we are saved by the Grace of God. I also believe this same grace is meant to deliver us from sins power... meaning whether to sin or not sin is a choice. You see I believe that God's grace is sufficient. Grace is not just a pardoning from ones sin, but a power to keep one from sin.

  11. I also believe once a person is saved they are always saved. When people come to know Christ as their Savior, they are brought into a relationship with God that guarantees their salvation as eternally secure. Numerous passages of Scripture declare this fact.
    Romans 8:30
    Romans 8:33-34
    John 14:17
    Romans 8:9
    1 Corinthians 12:13
    Romans 8:38-39

    1. Anonymous, Romans 8 is based on God's foreknowledge. Likewise he predestines that all be conformed to the image and the fullness of his Son. None of these scriptures contextually support unconditional eternal life for anyone.


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