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Thursday, June 2, 2011

Sometime The Black Church Can Be Wrong!


There's a group in Harlem  planning a Gay Pride Picnic event for the week of June24-26.....But local pastors in the community are not feeling the event....One pastor in particular  is vowing his family won't leave the house that day...He expects his parishioners to follow his lead and stay indoors when the second annual Harlem Pride event arrives June 24. 
"If children start to believe it is okay to be gay, they will think it's okay to be a pedophile or have sex with animals," said Dr. Ronald Ferguson, the senior pastor at Antioch Church of God on W. 124th St. "It's a slippery slope." "This gay pride nonsense is an abomination," Ferguson told the Daily News. "God does not want to see homosexuals in our parks.""Due to our religious beliefs, we do not support ... that event."
 Like I've stated many times on this blog.....I am part of "The Black Church" and love the role the church plays  in the black community....But there's  no way I'll support the thinking of these particular  church leaders at all...For any one trying to use or  associate pedophile and sex with animals in the same sentence as identifying  gay people is wrong....Come-on this is a low blow!....I support the church teaching that ALL sin is wrong in God eye sight....But when the church  start teaching none-sense like this is when I must draw the line.....These pastors  need to be rebuke call on the carpet, chew out, lambast, reprimand, scold, take to task  I believe and feel very strongly in my heart that the issue of homosexuality and abortion will be dealt with at the judgement seat of Christ article here
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  1. @Erika thanks for the comment..What do you mean? I know without researching that Jeremiah 23 doesn't say pastors should call gay people pedophiles...And no one should be label a pedophile unless they are one.

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  2. I don't know why a minister would do that, unless they are trying to scare people.
    Thanks Ann, for posting this and for your comments. It hurts when people, particularly Christians, say those things but it's good to know that not all fall for it.
    You and me don't agree always but that's ok. I know you are strong in your convictions (that's good)but unlike some, you listen, you learn and grow, and you teach. Yes you do. Thank you.

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  3. Why does it hurt?
    If you believe as the Bible says that homosexuality an abomination, as with bestiality, and a part of "all sin is wrong in God eye sight", what is wrong with using the two comparatively? Its just like saying I won't do business with a liar or whoremonger - you don't have to be both, but since you're in the same category and equal sins, might as well cause have their part in the lake.
    And guarantee, those that are active pedophiles are proud to be, and they will campaign on the tail end of all the gay rights being achieved.
    But you're embarrassed by him saying that? I at least hope you're glad he's keeping his kids inside to not be exposed to naked people on parade in a hypersexual environment.

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  4. LaPreghiera, I can't even answer your question without flinching. I'll just remind you that pedophiles do not prosper from gay rights since statics show that the huge majority of pedophiles are heterosexual.

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  5. @LaPreghiera I don't like what the man of God said and I believe he's wrong and so are you....How can you with good sense compare a group of people with pedophiles and bestiality? It's a low blow and a cheap shot.

    Since you are into comparison how about if you were compared to a murderer? You wouldn't like that especially considering the fact that you never hurt or harm anyone in your life. I will stand on what I believe to be true....No man of God should be standing in any pulpit spreading that kinda of hate.

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  6. If both are sins, and all sins are the equal, why can't pederasty and homosexuality and bestiality be breathed in the same breath or even interchanged? God is not going to care whether you lie or fornicate, with men, women, or kids. It is a sin.
    Speaking of pedophilia in conjunction with homosexuality still brings reproach to their cause. Unfortunately by desensitizing us and our kids to the ugliness of homosexuality, that will open the door for people to accept other sexual perversions.
    You should see how many kids are riding those floats "in support" of scantily clad men and women, gyrating all over the place. Now a pedophile out in the crowd, what does he see? Because in these parades they don't just walk and march, they are being lascivious in open air. So you have your little girl or boy dancing out there with Uncle Brittany Spears and his friends like its all fun. All a pedophile sees is a child willingly participating in the hyper sexual atmosphere, and he wants in. They are coming in on the tail end of the homosexual revolution.
    Jackie, statistics show that 100% of pedophiles have unconsentual sex with kids, 100% of homosexuals have sex with someone of their own gender, and 100% of those performing bestiality are copulating with an animal.
    Does any of that make you flinch?
    Would you rather see that parading down the street on Saturday, or get a 6am visit from the Jehovah Witnesses?

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  7. The plane reading of scripure,so beloved of those who view the Bible as inerrant ,infallible, and inspired are less enthusiastically when comes to biblical positions that differ from their own interests and practices. Like I said before in the Bible Jesus has a great deal to say about divorce and nothing to say about homosexuality,yet most preachers and Christians avoid any serious discussion views on divorce. MAT 5:31 "It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a
    certificate of divorce.'

    32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital
    unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries
    the divorced woman commits adultery.
    A large number of the adults in the church have divorces for reasons other then infidelity, but lets not talk about that sin we have to keep this one silent, it can be our little chritian secret.
    Matthew 5:43 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Let's also keep this one a secret for if we don't we might have to act like we love homosexaul's. Homosexuality is a sin, but Jesus call's us to love all of our neighbor's, not just chritians who think like you. We are all sinners saved by grace. For the record I'm a heterosexual married man with one child,unashamedly black unapologetically christian.

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  8. @jjbrock said: "For any one trying to use or associate pedophile and sex with animals in the same sentence as identifying gay people is wrong"

    I want you to look at God's Word out of Romans 1:

    24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

    26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

    Do you have to see homosexuality, or beastiality or pedophile to understand that they are all of depraved minds?

    Love is my calling you out when you are wrong! In another article you stated that your mom called you out about shacking. Was it not out of love? Why can you not see the Love of the Pastors for the people they are called to Pastor. I'm not here to try and be nice to you if you are wrong! I love you enough to tell you the truth and if it means that I compare your negative ways with those of other unpleasant negative ways, then you just have to deal with it. My love is not based upon your liking everything that I say, as a matter of fact, the truth hurts! And the truth is, you ain't got no business parading that nonsense around in our communities. If you want to sin, that's fine, but that don't mean that you are going to parade that mess around in our communities. The white folks may do it, but you are not going to bring that mess up in here!

    Now, what do I sound like? Just like and mama or daddy talking to their children when that are trying to bring some new mess up in their house.

    That's exactly what I hear in the Pastor's response. NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD!

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  9. @Anonymous said...
    "Homosexuality is a sin, but Jesus call's us to love all of our neighbor's, not just chritians who think like you."

    Let me disagree with you on a couple of things.

    1) The Bible does speak to the acts associated with homosexuality.

    2) In your statement above, why do you have the "but" in between sin and love of neighbor? Are you trying to imply that one cannot "love their neighbor" and still call the act of homosexuality a sinful act by their neighbor? Many want to equate calling sin, sin, with hate. Just because I call you a lier, or murder, or thief, does not mean that I hate you. I hate the act which has beseiged you, and therefore I love you enough to tell you that you are doing something that will seperate you from enternal life. Now that's real love.

    One other thing. I don't see people running around parading divorce or crying about equal rights nor mounting a campaign against the church and the black community. Divorce is talked about in the church. But just like the Bible describes, many are like a man that looks at himself in the mirror and some as he turns away, he forgets what in looks like. Many are like that about the truth of God's Word. If you go into most Church, you will notice that Sunday School and Bible Study are normally very low in numbers. So most church goers do NOT study to show themselves approved. Therefore the works that they do are not good.

    Just as Gays don't want to accept the truth about homosexuality, so hetrosexuals don't want to accept the truth about divorce.

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  10. @ S_Lamar I never said the bible does not speak of acts associated with homosexuality, I said Jesus never spoke specifically about homosexuality.Homosexuality is a sin as is divorce, fornications,gambling and about six hundred more sins that many christians seem to think are fine to commit daily with out repent, some even make it main form of entertainment (gambling).The only sins that seem to get church folk all worked up is abortion and homosexuality. Jesus, the son of God our Lord and Saviour did not find the sin of homosexuality important enough to mention. S_Lamar telling your homosexual nighbor that being a homosexual is sin, is not loving your neighbor as thyself. Again Jesus commanded us to do things 1.Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind, and with thy whole strength;
    2.Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.

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  11. I see nothing wrong with this Pastor's statement. I think he was trying to say that when will the line be drawn on what is wrong. There is a homosexual agenda that has been in our society and media for many years now. It is powerful and has a lot of money backing it.

    There was a time when two women or men kissing o TV would not have been acceptable. Now we have such a bi-curious society that nothing is sacred anymore. Marriage isn't honored or even valued.

    When will it stop? If it is okay for same sex relationships, then the same rationale can be used for those that love children or animals. People are pushing this "I can do and love who/what I want" rhetoric to justify their own mess. I am glad someone is bold enough to speak and say something.

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  12. ipurifoy73 the same rationale can not be used for those (adults)that love children or animals. Pedophobia and Beastality or both noconsenual and criminal. They are criminal because children and animales get hurt both mental and physically. Two consenting homosexual's who love each other and have sex is very different from beastality and pedophobia. Homosexuality is a sin but not a crime, like most of the other sins listed in the Bible are not crimes, so i would say that we draw the line at sins that are crimes.

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  13. @Anonymous said...
    "Homosexuality is a sin, but Jesus call's us to love all of our neighbor's, not just chritians who think like you."

    Let me disagree with you on a couple of things.

    1) The Bible does speak to the acts associated with homosexuality.

    2) In your statement above, why do you have the "but" in between sin and love of neighbor? Are you trying to imply that one cannot "love their neighbor" and still call the act of homosexuality a sinful act by their neighbor? Many want to equate calling sin, sin, with hate. Just because I call you a lier, or murder, or thief, does not mean that I hate you. I hate the act which has beseiged you, and therefore I love you enough to tell you that you are doing something that will seperate you from enternal life. Now that's real love.

    One other thing. I don't see people running around parading divorce or crying about equal rights nor mounting a campaign against the church and the black community. Divorce is talked about in the church. But just like the Bible describes, many are like a man that looks at himself in the mirror and some as he turns away, he forgets what in looks like. Many are like that about the truth of God's Word. If you go into most Church, you will notice that Sunday School and Bible Study are normally very low in numbers. So most church goers do NOT study to show themselves approved. Therefore the works that they do are not good.

    Just as Gays don't want to accept the truth about homosexuality, so hetrosexuals don't want to accept the truth about divorce.

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