This is not a typical African American Church!There's nothing wrong or right, bad or good...I just don't get the purpose of this and plus I have never seen this in the church house...Again I was raised in the baptist and pentecostal church were I grew up and witness dancing,running, speaking in tongues and shouting in the pews but never nothing like this....I guess my question would be what’s the edification in all of that? I mean, seriously... This is exactly the reason some non church folks don’t take church seriously....There so much show, so little substance...What really take the cake is that you have the pastor (in this case “Bishop” Hezekiah Walker) playing right along.
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My question, why are they dancing? It is for self or God? In this case I thin the former is true
I do think that dance - even this type - has a place in worship and the ritual of worship. But for these individuals it seems their dance is for their own glory not the glory of God.
This is a shame. Their dancing has nothing to do with praising the LORD -- which is the purpose. No one lifts their hands, I don't hear any Hallelujahs... nothing. It looks like a dance-off, based on the lining up and the reaction of those "waiting their turn" (such as the one fellow hiding his face and possibly his laughter).
If I was dead I'd turn over in my grave.....
The only shame is THIS is what passes for "church" these days. Entertainment and displays of self. I'm neither suprised nor disheartened anymore. The early church warned us of this sort of thing.
True worship is still "spirit and truth". Jesus said that himself.
Everything else...well does it even need to be said.
That's not dancing, it's called jigging.
Is there ever a time in our journey, that we can just have some good old fashion fun?
Cedric, I understand how you feel, but there is a time and place for everything. Too often, the church is not a place for building disciples, but for jigging, babbling like an idiot and entertainment -- its like going to the club without(hopefully) the happy ending back your apartment. (Though sadly, given what I've seen in church, getting nookie in the choir loft is a lot easier than the club.)
This is straight cooning, pure and simple and it upsets me that this passes for church. I am personally from the old Methodist tradition where folks better have a darn good reason to shout and dance around. Just dancing around like a nut is frowned upon when I was growing up in the AME church. And in many old school AME churches, you're still given the ice grill by church mothers who think that tom foolery belongs in a Pentecostal storefront (no offense, Ann).
Yes, we had a minister who shout for glory from prayer. (But given that he was once a drug dealer and head of street gang to gaining religious degrees from Princeton and Yale, that brother could jump out of bed with a song of praise.) You have that in almost every black church.
But these Negroes doing the doo-doo brown in the pulpit isn't praise -- its "look at me, I still got rhythm".
Personally, if I ever get the call to preach (I hear God pushing me to the ministry from time to time) I'd go back to the pre-Vatican II Catholic days -- sit your Black behinds down, be quiet for 30-45 minutes and actually think about what the preacher is saying. God ain't impress with you dancing around like a monkey if you're not change by the Word!
I approach a sermon the same way I approach a lecture in college -- notebook and pen in hand checking and rechecking references.
What these fools were doing was embarrassing and not spirit filled, pure and simple.
I really am speechless.
This clearly is a case of "I can outdance all of you all." Pure nonsense.
That is why so many people are turned off from the church- so many places of "worship" allow any and everything.
I don't feel like anyone was touched by the Holy Spirit and was led to start praising Him through dance.
This is showing up and showing out. A bunch of fooliness that could have been on In Living Color!
This reminds me of the movie "Tap" where all the tap dancers (Gregory Hines and Sammy Davis jr. and others)try to out dance each other.
Check it out on YouTube.
I believe people can get up and feel the spirit, but that is not what's happening here. It's a dance off. They're having fun and showing out. I guess it's up to the church to decide if it's OK. But I feel they should call it what it is.
Folks:
These are just some negroes having some fun in church. no worship..so
praise...just some ignorant fun.
they are clueless as to why their acts are reprehensible. this is strange fire on the altar. shame on all of them. the pastor is blind and he is leading the blind.
this truly is a flesh on flesh dance off. but to have this done in
the sanctuary is out of order.
in my opinion, if this is condoned,
I would hate to see the level of teaching and discipleship that takes place here.
dance...negroes...dance!
And, is it just my imagination or did a one of these dancing guys actually pull out his cell and "text" while dancing? Now that's crazy.
Ann,
When I read this originally over at IST, I should have known you mined this gold.
So, here's what I said there, because it bears repeating:
It's a fact: David danced... a lot. Butt naked, even.
But it was all before the Lord. His audience was one. It was glorified and welcomed. And to this day, we have an example of how to worship through dance.
What these fools are doing is no more sacrosanct than a scene from "Breaking 2: Electric Bugaloo."
I mean, back in the day, when I used to line up in choreographed means, dancing under a spotlight in rhythmic fashion hoping for applause... it was stepping and I was at a Greek show (Ice. Cold. '06! if you need it.)
However, this is nothing more than "Church's Got Talent." And if anyone has a qualm with that, note homeboy TEXTING WHILST HOOFING! Are you kidding me?!
Sigh. I'm going to go pray now before I pour sackcloth and ashes or something really heinous.
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