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Friday, April 24, 2009

Is A Ban On Baggy Pants Racism In Disguise?

In 2008, 72 percent of voters in Riviera Beach, FL, passed a ban on pants that ride below the waist exposing skin or underwear... But it turns out loose waistbands are a civil liberty... A judge ruled this week that the ordinance violated the 14th amendment of the constitution, because there was no legitimate government interest in the law regulating style.

The city argued that the ban on saggy pants wasn't based on sartorial concerns, but safety concerns, since residents could hide weapons in their loose-fitting clothes. The judge didn't buy that.

Police in various states around the country have cracked down on baggy pants. In Flint, MI, the new chief announced last year that he would begin arresting people with droopy drawers for indecency and make offenders face a $500 fine and up to three months in jail.


In addition to the judge in Florida, the laws have raised the concerns of the ACLU and the NAACP, which worry about the racial implications. They think the baggy ban has the potential to disproportionately target the black community... I think the ban is ridiculous, since when does America have fashion police?


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  1. A "baggy ban" would not only be ridiculous, but also scarey. Whenever I read or think about such acts, it makes me wonder: "what's next?" You can check out my opinion at:

    http://soulpoetjournal.blogspot.com/2008/07/legislate-this.html

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  2. I believe that that is one of the best things they could do. I am so sorry, but a dude don't need to be walking around showing half his butt to look cute, thuggish, or whatever other expression he trying to show. That's just like the women walking around in sports bras callin'em "halter tops". That mess is ridiculous and disrespectful to themselves and to those who have to look at that mess--even if the look IS just a glance before one's eyes registers what it is.
    People wanna talk about it, how bad the situation has become, but when legislation FINALLY does something about it, then those same complainers wanna start talking about invasion of civil liberties. Ain't nothing in the constitution that says it's ones right to show his butt when walking down the street.
    How about maintaining that modicum of respect our parents tried to teach us when growing up. "Boy, pull yo pants up" is still one of the #1 sayings going on today, and it ain't just being said by the police and old grandmas either.
    I wish upon wish that there would be more policemen who would at THE VERY LEAST pass out mandatory court appearance tickets to dudes, and chicks, who walk around with their pants dropped below their butt cracks and cheeks.

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  3. This is purely unconstitutional and racist. It just goes to show that the Black man will forever be criminalized. Any Black person who supports this and applaud this move probably wouldn't like it if their right to vote is compromised or questioned.

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  4. I just wrote a blog about this myself.

    Can we say "TOO MUCH DAMN TIME ON OUR HANDS"? They've been trying to do this for years (Mainly the older black elders) but have been turned down. I honestly don't think this became a problem until our Snow skinned friends in the suburbs started doing it. Lemme say though, I don't like the sagging thing and I'm 22. Now, I DO have pants that sag but that's because I'm too lazy to try stuff on when I shop and I sometimes buy the pants a TAD too big, even though they don't LOOK it and I don't take them back. Thank God for my liking of shits that are 3XL and Over.

    This is just something that is trying to sway people for more IMPORTANT things. We have other things to worry about than a foolish clothing trend.

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  5. This style is unfortunate. It's comes from a prison culture and looks horrid most of the time. I don't like it. But, I can't see a law about it.

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  6. This blog is racist. Oh please, don't pretend that you are not racist against the white man.

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  7. This style is an unfortunate replication of a prison situational style . It is disgusting and improper. It is not racist. If black men started a trend by showing their entire, exposed backsides and they were arrrested for it would that be racist also? I think if anyone is exposing their undergartments or buttocks should be cited for indecent exposure, PERIOD.

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  8. "This blog is racist. Oh please, don't pretend that you are not racist against the white man."

    Does this blog express an overt air of superiority against non-minorities? Of course it doesn't. That said, just how exactly is it racist?

    Read a book, then maybe you'd understand just what racism is.

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  9. In the 50's and 60's there was an uproar about segregated bathrooms, seats, and drinking fountains. Above a fountain you would see a sign that read, "black fountain", "colored fountain" or "negro fountain". The black forefathers fought and died to get rid of segregation and the signs. Yet the most astonishing thing today, is that these signs have re-appeared on blogs that declare, "black church", or "black blog".

    We fought hard to get rid of the segregation and yet here we are trying to re-post those signs back up on the wall.

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  10. I believe you are right in labeling the laws racist. However, it seems we've failed in our parental responsibilities. When we don't teach our children the very basics of respect and decency, then sadly enough the law steps in.

    I have composed a response to your post, albeit somewhat late. Please take a look and tell me what you think: http://soulbrotherv2.blogspot.com/2009/05/racism-in-shades-of-gray.html

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  11. Italian- Americans insist on calling themselves "Italians". Polish American Social Centers, Greeks, and many other ethnicities feel free (without controversy) to identify their clubs, activities and themselves by their ethnicities. Why is always a problem for some white folk. It is sometimes a problem for some Blacks. Greeks can be here for 5 generations and identify as "greek"! Yeah, right. We will remain Black as long as the world stands whether we choose to or not so just leave it alone will ya?

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  12. I believe that that is one of the best things they could do. I am so sorry, but a dude don't need to be walking around showing half his butt to look cute, thuggish, or whatever other expression he trying to show. That's just like the women walking around in sports bras callin'em "halter tops". That mess is ridiculous and disrespectful to themselves and to those who have to look at that mess--even if the look IS just a glance before one's eyes registers what it is.
    People wanna talk about it, how bad the situation has become, but when legislation FINALLY does something about it, then those same complainers wanna start talking about invasion of civil liberties. Ain't nothing in the constitution that says it's ones right to show his butt when walking down the street.
    How about maintaining that modicum of respect our parents tried to teach us when growing up. "Boy, pull yo pants up" is still one of the #1 sayings going on today, and it ain't just being said by the police and old grandmas either.
    I wish upon wish that there would be more policemen who would at THE VERY LEAST pass out mandatory court appearance tickets to dudes, and chicks, who walk around with their pants dropped below their butt cracks and cheeks.

    ReplyDelete
  13. A "baggy ban" would not only be ridiculous, but also scarey. Whenever I read or think about such acts, it makes me wonder: "what's next?" You can check out my opinion at:

    http://soulpoetjournal.blogspot.com/2008/07/legislate-this.html

    ReplyDelete